News from Vermont Debate AKA The Voice of Edwin is the weekly newsletter of the Edwin Lawrence Debate Union at the University of Vermont, an endowed co-curricular program which trains students in debating and sponsors national competition and community events. The newsletter is published every Tuesday during the school year and infrequently at other times. Alfred C. Snider is the Director. 802-656-0097 voice, 802-238-8345 mobile, 802-656-4275 fax, firstname.lastname@example.org email, and http://debate.uvm.edu/ldu.html web site.
The final Cross Examination Debate Association sweepstakes numbers are out, and UVM is in the top 20 once again. While expectations were higher for the season, the results show a strong performance by a group of mostly very young debaters. Last year UVM finished at #10 and this year finished at #18. UVM's highest finish in recent years was #5. The sweepstakes numbers are compiled by looking at the performance of the top two years a school sends to a tournament, and looks at the top six tournaments for the entire year. Every preliminary round win is worth one point and each elimination round win is worth one point. Comparisons with last year show that while UVM did well at almost every tournament attended, there were not as many "dominant" tournaments as in previous years, for example, when UVM would "close-out" a tournament or win more than one division at a tournament. "The stage is set for great performances to come," said coach Snider, "as we have recharged the team with intelligent, talented, and motivated young debaters. I am excited about what they will do in the two and three years to come." There could have been a lot more points piled up by UVM chose to enter teams above their eligibility level in order to gain experience quicker even if it meany fewer sweepstakes points.
The year also featured the second consecutive Junior Varsity national championship.
The top 100 is listed below for reference purposes. It is interesting to look at the schools that finished above UVM as well as looking at those who finished below UVM. Many of those finishing below UVM have substantial scholarship programs for debate (UVM has none) as well as substantially larger budgets than UVM's funds available for debate. "We are lucky to have our endowment, which means we can focus on the growth and development of our students," noted Snider, "instead of having to focus on national rankings to justify our funding, as so many schools must."
UVM alumni and former coaches also did well on the list, having HALF of the top ten and those schools are in italics. They include 4 Rochester (Sam Nelson), 5 Oklahoma (Jackie Massey), 6 Kansas (Jan Hovden), 7 Cornell (Jethro Hayman), 8 UMKC (Sarah Snider), 23 Catholic (Paul Kerr & Aaron Fishbone), 30 Iowa (Rae Schwartz), 55 Wichita State (Brian Cole), 82 Marist (Maxwell Schnurer), and 84 Vassar and 85 Bard (Andy Ellis).
|CEDA SCHOOLS 1-33||CEDA SCHOOLS 34-66||CEDA SCHOOLS 67-100|
3 Michigan State
11 George Mason
12 SW Missouri
14 North Texas
15 Wake Forest
16 Central Oklahoma
24 San Francisco St
29 Idaho State
31 New York
32 Southern California
|34 John Carroll
35 Mary Washington
41 K State
45 Miami FL
48 Cal Poly SLO
49 Texas San Antonio
51 Arizona State
52 Emporia State
54 Wichita State
55 Miami OH
56 Loyola Chicago
57 Augustana IL
60 Middle Tenn St
61 Texas Dallas
63 Southern Illinois
65 Northern Iowa
66 Georgia State
68 Kansas City CC
70 West Virginia
72 James Madison
73 West Georgia
74 Fort Hays
76 Texas State
77 Sacramento State
78 Southeast La
81 Western Connecticut
83 Johnson County CC
86 Western Illinois
87 Wisconsin Osh Kosh
92 Puget Sound
93 Florida State
96 Eastern New Mexico
97 Michigan Dearborn
100 San Diego State
The end of the season featured a special guest for the LDU. Bojana Skrt, director of the Slovenian national debate program, watched us prepare and attend the JV/Novice Nationals at Towson in order to get a better sense of American debating. While initially troubled with the fast talking, she developed an ear for it and began to understand its different nature and some of its complexity. She also got a chance to see some "performance" debating by several teams.
Bojana has been very successful organizing debating in Slovenia and for four years was the vice president of the International Debate Education Association. Last November she cooperated with WDI to hold a debate workshop in Slovenia where Snider was an instructor. She has received a USA State Department grant to host another such event next November, also in cooperation with WDI.
<== Bojana (in white in middle) with some of her debaters
| Allana Alexander (left) and her partner, Heather Towne, Rochester novice finals, 1999 |
"I was writing
to say hello and I hope all is well. I wrote you a few years ago but had not
heard back I imagine my mail got lost with the hundreds of emails I am sure
receive daily so I figured I would try again. Based on the debate web site it
seems we are still doing very well as a debate team and that our membership
is expanding, that is a wonderful thing. I have been involved in the debate
community on some level after graduating from UVM. While in law school I judged
some high school debates and in fact saw Will Baker on a few occasions. After
graduation I attended Fordham law school, there I was a member of the Fordham
Moot Court Board, and the Fordham Trial Advocacy program, my team and I actually
one the First Annual Thurgood Marshal Mock Trial competition. I thought the
Lawrence Debate Union was an incredible experience, it brings to one confidence
in public speaking and has fostered within me quick thinking which was so vital
in the competitions; you always had to think on your feet. It was an experience
one cannot acquire in the classroom.
I graduated from law school in May of 2003 and prepared for the NY bar this past summer, I passed and am now an attorney for the city of New York at the New York City Law Department, Office of the Corporation Counsel, there I am an Assistant Corporation Counsel. I defend the city in Tort actions. It's an incredible experience, I'm in court at least twice a week I draft motions and argue them before the judge. I have conducted several depositions already and enter into discovery schedules with opposing counsel.
I often read the LDU web site, I am so happy to hear about Helen and Justin, who would have thought then that they were to be married just a few years later. And congratulations to them and their baby.
Tuna, keep up the good work with the debate team, it was both an honor and a privilege to work with the great talent that was the team. Our judges were also extraordinary. When I reflect on my time at UVM that which brings me the greatest joy and leaves me with a smile on my face is my time debating. I have not only the awards but the memories as well. If you should need help with any judging when in New York, don't hesitate to contact me. "
LDU hopes to announce 2004-05 tentative travel schedule soon.
Off season research assignments will be made for the summer.
NOW WITH 284
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Next taping: 4/10 meet at the office at 12:30 Saturday
LAST TAPING: #283 Diet Daze, #284 Airport Security
SUGGESTED TOPICS FOR NEXT TAPING: #285 Burlington Restaurant Review, #286 New Right to Life Movement
Panelists: Knops, Massey, Kern, Hoag, Snider
NEW FLASHPOINT NOW AVAILABLE
#282: Assassination Policy
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FRONT: Lawrence Debate Union 2004
BACK: DEBATE THIS! (very large) or DEBATE THIS! with a concert style listing of places visited this year. Places include: Atlanta, Rochester, Croatia, Burlington, Cambridge, West Point, Miami, Oklahoma City, New York City, Winston-Salem, Slovenia, Denton, Dallas, Montreal, Ithaca, Chicago, Binghamton, Poughkeepsie, Baltimore, Louisville, Washington, Beijing.
UVM DEBATE WAS #10 IN THE CEDA
NATIONAL SWEEPSTAKES FOR 2002-2003.
UVM DEBATE IS #18 IN THE CEDA NATIONAL SWEEPSTAKES FOR 2003-2004.